Sony's CEO thinks $600 is a fair price

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Stavrose @ May 19 2006, 06:31 PM) [snapback]80161[/snapback][/center]
You'd think Sony would learn from their mistake of the past, I don't think they're going to make the same mistake twice. The BluRay player in the PS3 won't have the same problems as the DVD player in the PS2. Remember, BluRay is SONY's technology. They make it and manipulate it any way they like. Like Sony's CEO said, Sony has all the resources in its house. I think they'll have a strong foothold on the BluRay player to make sure it won't have the issues the DVD player in the PS2 had
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Hey, if you are right then that is something to crow about, but judging from past experiences we will look at the blue-ray player in a year as junk, leaving you with a next-gen conosle system that the only improvement over it's predecessor is better graphics.

Though you did bring up a great point with Blue-ray being Sony's own propriatary stuff. Assuming, of course Blue-ray does dominate the market as the next step in home media and doesn't become the next Beta/Laserdisc.
 
blaa blaa blaa. theres no way to confirm any of what anyone is saying in here at all until the thing actually comes out

some people seem so sure of themselves though :P
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(PrOdiGy @ May 20 2006, 05:10 AM) [snapback]80242[/snapback][/center]
blaa blaa blaa. theres no way to confirm any of what anyone is saying in here at all until the thing actually comes out

some people seem so sure of themselves though :P
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Ummmm, the prices are very confirmed.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Isildur @ May 20 2006, 07:08 AM) [snapback]80260[/snapback][/center]
you think you americans are gtting screwed:

http://uk.gamespot.com/news/6151565.html

we have to pay an equivelent of 800 dollars for it [/b]
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consoles in Europe are ALWAYS more expensive than in the U.S. The PS2 was like $300-$400 in Greece when it was $200 in the U.S. Not quite sure why it is this way, maybe it has to do with EU regulations, VAT, and other restrictions
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Fluffy @ May 20 2006, 01:01 AM) [snapback]80041[/snapback][/center]
Not trying to pick a fight...but you gotta admit, those two statements are quite funny together.
As for your opening statement, yes, I agree completely, it IS still just a game machine. Yeah, Blue-Ray machines are $1k a piece now, they won't be next year, and they certainly won't be that expensive 3-4 years from now.
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true, but FF VII is the uber shiznat. That game just ruled. Not to mention that the entire FF community has wanted them to redo that game since hte PS2 came out, and then they went and teased everybody with that video at E3, then they said "We are not planning on making an FFVII remake".... after the outcry they finally said "we'll see".

but still, PS1 and PS2 have a ton of games, with little to no original content. The FF games were good and there were others, but overall there was WAY more crap then good games.

And I don't care if the blue-ray machines are $1k a piece, they should have thought about that before putting thier stupid caps on and saying "let's make the system as powerfull as we can, so we can waste the competition. Oh and I don't care what cost it is, just build it."

They need to put less development into system and more into games is all I'm saying.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Rehhtahn @ May 20 2006, 05:01 PM) [snapback]80326[/snapback][/center]
true, but FF VII is the uber shiznat. That game just ruled.
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I disagree. I liked 6 better (3 for the SNES)
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Rankin @ May 20 2006, 04:44 AM) [snapback]80085[/snapback][/center]
You're only assuming it'll be sub-par. No units exist for review as yet.

If you're 14 and have a ps3 on your christmas list though, is it really the blue-ray shit you're concerned with? Or do you just want the hot new thing with the games? That release date's no accident. The price alone is what's going to kill its sales at christmas if it has to fight with the Wii. It doesn't matter what you *get* for the price, its just the price. Dig? Parents aren't gonna research their adolescent kids toys, they're just gonna spend. Less. Cheap motherfuckers...
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Well, looking at sony's past in regards to the PS2, that system was sub par. And unless you're stupid you're not going to start going all out on the blue ray stuff till you know for sure that it actually will be used. You can get every movie out there on DvD, why on earth would you want to switch to blue ray if DvD is already that widely available and low cost?

Overall I think the PS3 is a stupid idea. it's cost is way too high to be a gaming console, and going by history the cost is WAY to high for it to be an entertainment system.

As I said, I won't touch the PS3 until they can prove to me beyond a shadow of a doubt that the system will be worth my money.(and at that pricetag, it has a lot of proving to do)
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Rehhtahn @ May 20 2006, 10:14 PM) [snapback]80328[/snapback][/center]
Well, looking at sony's past in regards to the PS2, that system was sub par. And unless you're stupid you're not going to start going all out on the blue ray stuff till you know for sure that it actually will be used. You can get every movie out there on DvD, why on earth would you want to switch to blue ray if DvD is already that widely available and low cost?

Overall I think the PS3 is a stupid idea. it's cost is way too high to be a gaming console, and going by history the cost is WAY to high for it to be an entertainment system.

As I said, I won't touch the PS3 until they can prove to me beyond a shadow of a doubt that the system will be worth my money.(and at that pricetag, it has a lot of proving to do)
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ps2 was a groundbreaking console imo but no way am i gonna pay that much for a ps3 no matter how good it is. For that money i could completely upgrade my PC to "shit hot" status and play better games on better grphics :P
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(lpb8733 @ May 21 2006, 07:04 AM) [snapback]80327[/snapback][/center]
I disagree. I liked 6 better (3 for the SNES)
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I personally think 6 was a bit better then 7 too. But I still think 7 ruled.

funniest thing in 6, when you get to Maranda for the first time, there is a little forest near there that is great for gaining a few levels and some money.

Best part is that in one fight in particular(which happens quite often) you get 1337 gold, i just love that as it's the best at that point.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Cubby @ May 20 2006, 01:07 AM) [snapback]80043[/snapback][/center]
correct but niether will the ps3 ..the ps3 is offering an advaned or next gen tech at well below the market norm...
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and with the PS2, when you watched dvds alot, it burnt the damn thing out. now can you say if you watch alot of the blueray movies, will the same thing happen to the ps3? if so, then is it truelly worth it?
is it worth buying the PS2 to use as a dvd player, just because it might be cheaper then some?
 
IMO, Sony should scratch the base unit.....look what happened to the 360 core units, MS discontinued them.

They should release a core unit...but just without blue-ray capability. $400 for a base unit (with all the bells and whistles of the $600 unit sans the blue ray) I hear the core $500 unit doesn't have any extra features, no out of the box wi-fi, no HDMI outputs, etc etc.

I'm still up in the air over this whole price point...sure, as some people have pointed out, it'll probably be a good investment...but also a costly one. Just think about the up front money you'll be paying on release day. Most people buy at the very least one game, so they can play something when they get it back home, and at least one extra controller. Lets just say those two will run you an extra $100...most likely a bit more, add in the tax and it becomes an expensive trip out to best buy.....

The investment will be there, as Sony has indicated that the PS3 will have a 10 yr shelf life just like the PS2 has. So over a 10 yr period it does not seem all that bad.....but most ppl just don't want to swallow the initial cost. I see the investment value and I still don't want to cough up $700+....I guess it comes down to what you have available for disposable income, or how high your CC's are already at :P
 
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IMO, Sony should scratch the base unit.....look what happened to the 360 core units, MS discontinued them.

They should release a core unit...but just without blue-ray capability. $400 for a base unit (with all the bells and whistles of the $600 unit sans the blue ray) I hear the core $500 unit doesn't have any extra features, no out of the box wi-fi, no HDMI outputs, etc etc. There will be games using Blu-Ray, you won't be able to play them with a non Blu-Ray version. And besides for 200 more you get Blue-Ray thingy. If you look at prices for Blu-Ray today, they are well above 1000 bucks. Is awesome what you are getting with PS3.

I'm still up in the air over this whole price point...sure, as some people have pointed out, it'll probably be a good investment...but also a costly one. Just think about the up front money you'll be paying on release day. Most people buy at the very least one game, so they can play something when they get it back home, and at least one extra controller. Lets just say those two will run you an extra $100...most likely a bit more, add in the tax and it becomes an expensive trip out to best buy..... If ya are smart, ya will wait till next year and not buy it the first day :) Besides, there may be bundle packs available depending on what store you go to. I remember when the PS2 was realeased, Best Buy was giving away an extra control and a game (don't remember the game)

The investment will be there, as Sony has indicated that the PS3 will have a 10 yr shelf life just like the PS2 has. So over a 10 yr period it does not seem all that bad.....but most ppl just don't want to swallow the initial cost. I see the investment value and I still don't want to cough up $700+....I guess it comes down to what you have available for disposable income, or how high your CC's are already at :P And you can always save on the side to be able to cough up the moola!
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My 2 cents Mr. Rug'bacca. :unsure:
 
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Most of the GOOD games, especially the one of my..... ahem... come out in 2007, so why buy it now when you can buy it later :)
 
Good points Ms. Kitty

Anyone know when they are going to convert to blue ray gaming formats? From what I read printing to and distributing blue ray is expensive. Price points for games are already confirmed to be $60 like 360 games....I can see them going up to $80-$100 if printed on blue ray......

This whole, "the price is incredible for getting a blue ray player included" just doesn't float with me. Remember when CDs and player first came out? and DVDs and players?....it was the same thing and now they're cheap cheap. I dunno......Sony figured the UMD would be a great storage media, and now its dropping off the face of the Earth. Who knows, like I said, It may all be worth it in the long run....its the initial bite that hurts.

...and not buy on the first day?? What kind of gamer are you?!?! :P
also bundles don't neccesarily make things cheaper, they just make you spend more money with the outlet you're currently buying from :) I remember a ton of places where you couldn't initially buy a 360 stand alone, but if you were willing to buy a $1k package deal it was all yours.....

ah well, im a gaming fruit cake so i'm sure i'll be pawning off some valuables come time to make the purchase lol.....and saving? What does "saving" mean? I'm not sure i've heard that term before......
 
I'm reminded of the old days of a little system called the NEO-GEO that offered Arcade quality graphics in the time of Genisis and Super Nintendo (and for shits and giggles Turbo Graphics 16). Their games ran about $100+ a pop. Needless to say, the system died.
 
Weren't they more than $100+ at times?....a buddy of mine had a system back in those days so we could play all the KoF games.
 
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