Internet Explorer Can Go To Hell

Stavrose

Stavrose

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OK, for the past week or so I've been working hardcore on my new personal website, and so far it has been going smoothly. After about 3 months of trying to figure out how to customize my site via ExpressionEngine (owned by pMachine), I finally abandoned it and decided to go with WordPress (virtually identical engine and operation, but it isn't solely tag based like EE, making it comprehendable).

I converted all my old site news AND my entire LiveJournal WITH the comments, as well as integrated my Gallery in it with ease. Found a theme that had a layout I was looking for and for the past 3 days I've been customizing the layout to fit my tastes.

Anyway, I use Firefox, so everything was working great, no issues at all with viewing my site. I was too lazy to log out and test the anonymous user commenting, so I opened IE to do it through there (no IE cookie). I go to my site and what do i see? The entire site is fucked up! The banner logo has some bullshit grey background, the menu styles are wrong, and it the backgrounds for each post are deformed and off in shape and size. I quickly run to the W3C website to check what on earth I had fucked up. And to my surprise, i get the green "your page is valid XHTML 1.0 Transitional" confirmation. Maybe it is my stylesheet? No, that comes out as valid CSS as well!

So now I'm stuck. I have no fucking clue what to do, cause everything works according to the laws of the internet, yet Internet Explorer is a piece of shit that doesn't like to read VALID websites. Now I have to go out of my way to discover some sort of "IE hack" to put in my CSS file, so that when the page loads in IE, it will make the site look how it is supposed to. A painful and lengthy extra step cause the retards at Microsoft don't know how to code. Use Firefox
 
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OK, for the past week or so I've been working hardcore on my new personal website, and so far it has been going smoothly. After about 3 months of trying to figure out how to customize my site via ExpressionEngine (owned by pMachine), I finally abandoned it and decided to go with WordPress (virtually identical engine and operation, but it isn't solely tag based like EE, making it comprehendable).

I converted all my old site news AND my entire LiveJournal WITH the comments, as well as integrated my Gallery in it with ease. Found a theme that had a layout I was looking for and for the past 3 days I've been customizing the layout to fit my tastes.

Anyway, I use Firefox, so everything was working great, no issues at all with viewing my site. I was too lazy to log out and test the anonymous user commenting, so I opened IE to do it through there (no IE cookie). I go to my site and what do i see? The entire site is fucked up! The banner logo has some bullshit grey background, the menu styles are wrong, and it the backgrounds for each post are deformed and off in shape and size. I quickly run to the W3C website to check what on earth I had fucked up. And to my surprise, i get the green "your page is valid XHTML 1.0 Transitional" confirmation. Maybe it is my stylesheet? No, that comes out as valid CSS as well!

So now I'm stuck. I have no fucking clue what to do, cause everything works according to the laws of the internet, yet Internet Explorer is a piece of shit that doesn't like to read VALID websites. Now I have to go out of my way to discover some sort of "IE hack" to put in my CSS file, so that when the page loads in IE, it will make the site look how it is supposed to. A painful and lengthy extra step cause the retards at Microsoft don't know how to code. Use Firefox
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You need to publish this.... And I agree 100%
 
Or, it could be a reason to screw FireFox and just stick with IE like everyone else (80% of people still use IE).
 
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Or, it could be a reason to screw FireFox and just stick with IE like everyone else (80% of people still use IE).
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Because they don't know better.
 
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Or, it could be a reason to screw FireFox and just stick with IE like everyone else (80% of people still use IE). [/b]
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That's like saying, "you're better off buying the Tylenol that does the job with sideaffects rather than the generic brand that does the job without sideaffects because most people use Tylenol over generic." Why screw the product that does the job they way it is supposed to be done?
 
Not a proper analogy... because of the usage patterns. You'd have to include that Tylenol is given to everyone for free on the street corners, and has been for the past decade whereas the generic brand just started up recently. You would also have to include that you're given Tylenol when you're born, and that it is necessary to take it to keep functioning, regardless of the side affects. :P
 
I managed to work out ALL the IE bugs except one. Also had to convert all my PNG files with transparent backgrounds into gifs cause there's a bug in IE that doesn't like PNGs with transparent gifs....

Two bugs left, and they're weird. The major one is when I open my page in IE, it shows all the background colors correctly for the posts. However, the second I start scrolling, they all get fucked up. If I tab into another program window (like Firefox, or Photoshop) and then tab back into IE, the problem is solved....until I scroll again
 
Firefox is one of those things I don't understand why people don't have, and use.

Anyone who uses IE naturally has the internet. Firefox is right there, all they would have to do is spend like 5 minutes (If that) to download and install it. There isn't the necessity to learn anything new, as it acts just like IE with extra features that you can learn when comfortable with it (/ghostvoice Ohhhohohoh scarry tab browsing). But yeah, I guess not many people care that much, or they just don't know about it. Personally, I can't stand using IE anymore, just something about having more than one program running to view two websites at once bugs me :mellow:
 
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Firefox is one of those things I don't understand why people don't have, and use.

Anyone who uses IE naturally has the internet. Firefox is right there, all they would have to do is spend like 5 minutes (If that) to download and install it. [/b]
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Millions of people drive to work every day, log into their computers and start up IE. Why? Not necessarily because they don't know any different, but because they aren't allowed to install on their computers. I blame a huge percent of the net surfers using IE on archaic IT rules that not only don't allow users to install anything, but also refuse to pre-install better alternatives for people.

Of course if they wanted to they could get Portable FF on a thumb drive and not have to install anything :)

Wait till IE 7 ends up on all new machines, that will probably break everything.
 
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Millions of people drive to work every day, log into their computers and start up IE. Why? Not necessarily because they don't know any different, but because they aren't allowed to install on their computers. I blame a huge percent of the net surfers using IE on archaic IT rules that not only don't allow users to install anything, but also refuse to pre-install better alternatives for people.

Of course if they wanted to they could get Portable FF on a thumb drive and not have to install anything :)

Wait till IE 7 ends up on all new machines, that will probably break everything.
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True, but lots of those people don't use FF at home from what I hear. FF is still an underground thing, yet incredibly better and just as free as their competitor. I blame incompitence
 
Honestly, I'm too lazy to download it. They have it on the PC's at school and I use it there, but my internet at home is crap and I just don't feel like it (considering IE works almost exactly the same, although the only new thing I learned in FF other than W3 standards is tabbed browsing).
 
urgh IE7 is awful as well. they have tried to include features that firefox does but it just fails miserably in comparison
 
I just tabbed out, downloaded FireFox, installed it, imported ALL of my bookmarks/history/cookies/etc, opened it up, went to this forum and posted this post within 57.82 seconds.
 
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